Composing at what cost peace was achieved between the Montagues and the Capulets. Maybe someone in the know: because of what was the enmity between the Montagues and the Capulets? What is the difference between the Capulet family and the Montagues?

To the question Why did the Montagues and the Capulets quarrel? given by the author Kirill Leshchenko the best answer is I like the version presented here - http://www.vestnik.com/issues/1999/0928/win/sharov.htm:
"In two families, equal in nobility and glory, in magnificent Verona, the enmity of bygone days, bloody discord flared up again, made civilians bleed. From hostile loins, under the star of ill-fated lovers, a couple occurred ..."
With these words, William Shakespeare begins his immortal tragedy "Romeo and Juliet"
Literary critics note that "lovers born under an ill-fated star" are already found in the 2nd century new era in the writings of the Greek Xenophon. However, the prototypes of Romeo and Juliet, if they existed, apparently, were almost contemporaries of the great creator of these characters.
Another story very similar to the story of Romeo and Juliet appeared in print in 1476 in the Little Novels by Masuccio Salernitano, and half a century later it was retold by Luigi da Porto. His "newly discovered manuscript of two noble lovers" contains all the essential elements of a Shakespearean tragedy: Verona as the setting, two warring families - the Montagues and the Capulets - and the couple's suicide at the end. more than likely, Romeo and Juliet are fictional literary characters who first appeared in who knows where and who knows when. But this does not mean at all that the family feud described in Shakespeare's tragedy is also a fruit of the writer's imagination. The names Montague and Capulet (in the original transcription of Shakespeare - Montague and Capulet) were also not an invention of da Porto. "Come, careless, just cast a glance: Monaldi, Philippeski, Capulet, Montecchi - those in tears, and those trembling! Come, look at your nobility, at these violence that we see ..." - wrote back in 1320 Dante Alighieri in his " Divine Comedy", talking about internecine clashes in Italy. However, all attempts to find any reliable reference to the real families of the Montecchi and Capuleti were in vain. Until the American historian Olin Moore proposed a very ingenious solution to this puzzle. In his opinion, the Montecchi and Capulets are not proper names at all, but the names of two political parties, more precisely, their "local cells", which represented in Verona the main rival groups of medieval Italy - the Guelphs and the Ghibellines.
The Guelphs, whose name comes from the German Welf family, fought to turn Italy into a federal state under the rule of the pope. The Ghibellines, descendants of the German House of Hohenstaufen, supported the Holy Roman Emperor in his attempts to extend his power to the entire Italian peninsula. This struggle continued from the middle of the XII century until the second half of XIII century, and then degenerated into an ordinary internecine squabble on a parochial scale. One of the Ghibelline groups took the name Montecchi, after the name of the castle of Montecchio Maggiore, near Vicenza: it was there that the founding congress of the party took place. Verona is located just 45 kilometers west of Vicenza, and this group managed to make their puppet of the representative of the Guelph party who ruled there, whose name comes from the "capuletto" - a small hat that served members of this party hallmark. That's why in historical documents there is no mention of clashes between the Montagues and the Capulets."
Another version is here - http://www.riposte.ru/index.php?lan=ru&cont=article&id=3:
The origins of the "litigation of decrepit antiquity" are incomprehensible. Why does Shakespeare say nothing about the cause of the conflict? And here is the answer:
Montecchi - noble noble family, Capulet - a rich merchant family, who bought themselves the nobility and titles, with a pedigree of no more than 200 years, struggling to gain a foothold in high society on an equal footing with the ancient Montecchi family. A situation arose in which the second estate turned out to be no poorer, and often even richer than the first. What was left for truly noble families to do? Just let yourself be arrogant and keep your distance...

Answer from Kosovorotka[newbie]
in fact, everything is simpler. Some were supporters of the Guelph party (supporters of the Pope), others of the Ghibelline party (supporters of the Emperor of the Roman Empire of the German Nation). And since the conflict between the Pope and the Emperor was ancient since the 12th century, almost all families in Italy at that time belonged to one of the parties. Someone is for the Pope, someone is against the Pope, for the Emperor. Well, or as we have Soviet times they said - supporters of secular government and for limiting the rights of the Roman Catholic Church. For the Pope there were mostly noble nobility, against the Pope there were mostly merchants, artisans, etc. New people who were not part of the old nobility. By the way, this conflict between the Guelphs and the Ghibellines ended in 1861, when the Papal theocratic state ceased to exist and the Kingdom of Italy and a small fragment of the Papal State, the Vatican, appeared on its ruins.


Answer from discard[newbie]
iso denik


Answer from flush[newbie]
We can’t say anything and no one at all because we didn’t see with our own eyes everything that happens there) Only Shakespeare knows what happened there and how)


Answer from Irina Samuseva[guru]
Maybe some people do not remember why they are at enmity, and how it all began. And some, maybe, write down, so as not to forget.
Remember, I once wrote to you that for some reason, as a rule, troubles begin for those who call me aunt?

/ / / What is the reason for the enmity between the Montagues and the Capulets?

William Shakespeare is a brilliant master of tragedy, whose name is known to readers all over the world. His "" is an enthusiastic and "sadest in the world" play that impresses people who know how to sincerely love. The plot was not invented by Shakespeare, but borrowed from the Italian legend of two lovers. But it was his images of Romeo and Juliet that became eternal.

What is the play about? A young man and a girl meet by chance at a ball, and a great sincere feeling arises between them. This story could be quite ordinary. But Romeo and Juliet are children of warring families. Therefore, love between them was forbidden. They understand that it is unlikely that the parents will reconcile, having learned about it out of sympathy, most likely this will only aggravate the centuries-old conflict.

Why are they at odds? The author does not give a direct answer. Their hatred appeared a very long time ago, and hardly anyone remembers its cause. But looking at these families, one can try to guess the reason for their enmity. The most objective reason seems to be their position in society. The Montagues and the Capulets are the two most noble and influential families in Verona. Therefore, there was undoubtedly competition between them, a struggle for absolute power.

There is also a motive for blood feud. Once upon a time, one of their ancestors launched a bloody chain. And now they are at enmity and there is no just revenge, but simply revenge in the name of revenge itself. At the beginning of the play, the conflict between the servants of the Montagues and the Capulets is shown. So, the hostility touched absolutely everyone.

And they are not directly related to the conflict. They are representatives of the already new morality of humanism. The heroes are still young, but they managed to understand how absurd the enmity of their families is.

Juliet is younger than Romeo, so at first he hesitates, fears what awaits her if she does not give up forbidden love. The girl asks many questions, to which she herself finds answers. Romeo is the son of the enemy, he is the Montagues! But what does the name mean? The essence of a person is important, not the name. Whatever the name of her beloved, he will remain the same for her.

William Shakespeare deliberately does not indicate the reasons for the enmity of families in order to exaggerate the absurdity of human hatred. Clan members became enemies from the cradle, for no reason. The author shows that none of them tried to sort out the conflict. This is how an ossified society was formed, full of stupid prejudices and restrictions. Romeo and Juliet not only secretly loved, but also asked themselves questions, tried to understand the reason for their hatred. Children are much wiser and more humane than older family members.

There is a man in the play who is trying to resolve the conflict between the Montagues and the Capulets. This is the duke, a man of wisdom and insight. It is he who, at the end of the play, issues a kind of sentence to the families: “What a lesson for the haters that the sky kills you with love!”

Thanks to their unfortunate children, the Montagues and Capulets still learn a bitter lesson and reconcile. In honor of Romeo and Juliet, they want to erect monuments of gold. Thus love conquered enmity at the cost of the sacrifice of two lovers.

Why did the Montagues and the Capulets fight?

I like the version outlined here - http://www.vestnik.com/issues/1999/0928/... :
"In two families, equal in nobility and glory, in magnificent Verona, the enmity of bygone days, bloody discord flared up again, made civilians bleed. From hostile loins, under the star of ill-fated lovers, a couple occurred ..."
With these words, William Shakespeare begins his immortal tragedy "Romeo and Juliet"
Literary scholars note that "lovers born under an ill-fated star" are found already in the 2nd century AD in the writings of the Greek Xenophon. However, the prototypes of Romeo and Juliet, if they existed, apparently, were almost contemporaries of the great creator of these characters.
Another story very similar to the story of Romeo and Juliet appeared in print in 1476 in the Little Novels by Masuccio Salernitano, and half a century later it was retold by Luigi da Porto. His "newly discovered manuscript of two noble lovers" contains all the essential elements of a Shakespearean tragedy: Verona as the setting, two warring families - the Montagues and the Capulets - and the couple's suicide at the end. more than likely, Romeo and Juliet are fictional literary characters who first appeared in who knows where and who knows when. But this does not mean at all that the family feud described in Shakespeare's tragedy is also a fruit of the writer's imagination. The names Montague and Capulet (in the original transcription of Shakespeare - Montague and Capulet) were also not an invention of da Porto. "Come, careless, just cast a glance: Monaldi, Philippeski, Capulet, Montecchi - those in tears, and those trembling! Come, look at your nobility, at these violence that we see ..." - wrote back in 1320 Dante Alighieri in his "Divine Comedy", talking about internecine clashes in Italy. However, all attempts to find any reliable reference to the real families of the Montagues and Capulets were in vain. Until the American historian Olin Moore came up with a very ingenious solution to this puzzle. In his opinion, the Montagues and the Capulets are not proper names at all, but the names of two political parties, more precisely, their "local cells", which represented the main rival groups of medieval Italy in Verona - the Guelphs and the Ghibellines.
The Guelphs, whose name comes from the German Welf family, fought to turn Italy into a federal state under the rule of the pope. The Ghibellines, descendants of the German House of Hohenstaufen, supported the Holy Roman Emperor in his attempts to extend his power to the entire Italian peninsula. This struggle continued from the middle of the 12th century until the second half of the 13th century, and then degenerated into an ordinary internecine squabble on a parochial scale. One of the Ghibelline groups took the name Montecchi, after the name of the castle of Montecchio Maggiore, near Vicenza: it was there that the founding congress of the party took place. Verona is located just 45 kilometers west of Vicenza, and this grouping succeeded in puppeting the representative of the Guelph party who ruled there, whose name comes from "capuletto" - a small hat that served as a distinguishing mark for members of this party. That is why historical documents do not contain any mention of clashes between the Montagues and the Capulets."
Another version is here - http://www.riposte.ru/index.php?lan=ru&c... :
The origins of the "litigation of decrepit antiquity" are incomprehensible. Why does Shakespeare say nothing about the cause of the conflict? And here is the answer:
The Montagues are a noble noble family, the Capulets are a rich merchant family that has bought itself nobility and titles, with a pedigree of no more than 200 years, striving with all its might to gain a foothold in high society on an equal footing with the ancient Montecchi family. A situation arose in which the second estate turned out to be no poorer, and often even richer than the first. What was left for truly noble families to do? Just let yourself be arrogant and keep your distance...

23:41 18.03.2017 I understand that this idea unapproachable by everyone.
Popularize! Oh, ancient ukry!
When will you stop playing Shakespeare's tragedy in the new conditions?!
Why did the Montagues and the Capulets fight?

"In two families, equal in nobility and glory, in magnificent Verona, the enmity of bygone days, bloody discord flared up again, made civilians bleed. From hostile loins, under the star of ill-fated lovers, a couple occurred ..."
With these words, William Shakespeare begins his immortal tragedy "Romeo and Juliet"
Literary critics note that "lovers born under an ill-fated star" are found already in the II century AD in the writings of the Greek Xenophon. However, the prototypes of Romeo and Juliet, if they existed, apparently, were almost contemporaries of the great creator of these characters.
Another story very similar to the story of Romeo and Juliet appeared in print in 1476 in the Little Novels by Masuccio Salernitano, and half a century later it was retold by Luigi da Porto. His "newly discovered manuscript of two noble lovers" contains all the essential elements of a Shakespearean tragedy: Verona as the setting, two warring families - the Montagues and the Capulets - and the couple's suicide at the end. more than likely, Romeo and Juliet are fictional literary characters who first appeared in who knows where and who knows when. But this does not mean at all that the family feud described in Shakespeare's tragedy is also a fruit of the writer's imagination. The names Montague and Capulet (in the original transcription of Shakespeare - Montague and Capulet) were also not an invention of da Porto. "Come, careless, just cast a glance: Monaldi, Philippeski, Capulet, Montecchi - those in tears, and those trembling! Come, look at your nobility, at these violence that we see ..." - wrote back in 1320 Dante Alighieri in his "Divine Comedy", talking about internecine clashes in Italy. However, all attempts to find any reliable reference to the real families of the Montagues and Capulets were in vain. Until the American historian Olin Moore came up with a very ingenious solution to this puzzle. In his opinion, the Montagues and the Capulets are not proper names at all, but the names of two political parties, more precisely, their "local cells", which represented the main rival groups of medieval Italy in Verona - the Guelphs and the Ghibellines.
The Guelphs, whose name comes from the German Welf family, fought to turn Italy into a federal state under the rule of the pope. The Ghibellines, descendants of the German House of Hohenstaufen, supported the Holy Roman Emperor in his attempts to extend his power to the entire Italian peninsula. This struggle continued from the middle of the 12th century until the second half of the 13th century, and then degenerated into an ordinary internecine squabble on a parochial scale. One of the Ghibelline groups took the name Montecchi, after the name of the castle of Montecchio Maggiore, near Vicenza: it was there that the founding congress of the party took place. Verona is located just 45 kilometers west of Vicenza, and this grouping succeeded in puppeting the representative of the Guelph party who ruled there, whose name comes from "capuletto" - a small hat that served as a distinguishing mark for members of this party. That is why historical documents do not contain any mention of clashes between the Montagues and the Capulets."
Another version is here - http://www.riposte.ru/index.php?lan=ru&cont... :
The origins of the "litigation of decrepit antiquity" are incomprehensible. Why does Shakespeare say nothing about the cause of the conflict? And here is the answer:
The Montagues are a noble noble family, the Capulets are a rich merchant family that has bought itself nobility and titles, with a pedigree of no more than 200 years, striving with all its might to gain a foothold in high society on an equal footing with the ancient Montecchi family. A situation arose in which the second estate turned out to be no poorer, and often even richer than the first. What was left for truly noble families to do? Just let yourself be arrogant and keep your distance...

In modern Verona, there are and carefully preserved places reminiscent of the history of Shakespeare's lovers. Among the medieval buildings, two buildings were identified, probably belonging in the 13th century to the famous Veronese families Monticoli (Montecchi) and Dal Cappello (Capulets). On Via Arc Scaligere there is a somewhat dilapidated old palace, which has long been considered the House of Romeo - "Casa di Romeo". It can only be viewed from the outside. Inside this building, which used to be more extended, has a beautiful courtyard with an arched gallery. The outer crenellated wall suggests that the house was also used as a fortress. In the 12-13 centuries in Verona, many influential families had such fortified possessions, since internecine clashes broke out in the city every now and then due to the struggle of the Guelph and Ghibelline groups. The Monticoli family was one of the most powerful in Verona, until changed circumstances forced the representatives of the family to leave the city in 1324 and settle in Udine.
In the 14th century, the palace belonged to the noble family of Nogarola, and then was confiscated by the ruler of Cangrande Della Scala. Subsequently, this complex was sold and divided among several owners. Unfortunately, the Romeo House is not a museum, since all attempts by the City Government to buy this building were categorically rejected by its owners.

The house is decorated with prongs in the form of swallowtails, which means that the owners belong to the Ghibelin party (the party that supported the interests of the German emperors in Italy), but using logic. that the opponents of the Ghibellines were the Guelphs, i.e. supporters of the popes, then the Cappelio family (or in Shakespeare's Capulets) belonged to the Guelphs.

The enmity of the Verona noble families flared up the stronger, the more the power of the Scaligers declined. Luigi da Porto wrote about this in the book "The History of Noble Lovers" - he was the first to name Romeo and Juliet and gave them surnames borrowed from Dante. The plot passed from one author to another, Girolamo della Corta in the scientific work "History of Verona" gave the story as a true incident. Lope de Vega turned to the plot, then the Englishman Brook. It was from him that Shakespeare borrowed the plot, enriching it immensely.

But Juliet's House - "Casa di Giulietta" - has been restored and is open to the public. This palace is marked above the entrance with an old marble statue in the form of a hat - the coat of arms of the Dal Cappello family (cappello is a hat in Italian). According to archival documents, in 1667 Cappello sold part of the building with the now defunct tower to the Rizzardi family. Since then, the building has changed many owners. There is also evidence that the building was used for some time as an inn. This is how the legendary Juliet's House saw the English writer Charles Dickens visiting Verona in 1844: "I went to see the ancient Capulet Palace. Now it's a miserable tavern. home. Nothing here reminds of its former inhabitants, and a very unsentimental lady adorned the kitchen door. But the legends of the enmity of two families are still alive ... "

The whole story of Romeo and Juliet is most likely Shakespeare's fiction. In fact, it originated as an old Sienese legend, which in the 15th century was retold by the writer Masuccio Salernitan, and then Shakespeare embodied in tragedy.

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